Interview with Adriel Desautels - the pentest is broken. Adriel joins us for a discussion on the state of penetration testing, why it hasn't done much to help security teams over the last 20 years, and why AI won't save it. Segment Resources: https://hbr.org/2026/04/boards-are-falling-short-on-cybersecurity , https://www.scworld.com/perspective/how...